Originally Posted by Doug McClasky

Yes. Yes I do. Absolutely. I think America's oligarchy is subject to "the will of the people" in the sense that at the very least they can't shoot masses of people dead in the street or run them over with tanks without the public recoiling in horror and ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO VOTE THOSE OFFICIALS ASSOCIATED WITH IT OUT OF OFFICE CAUSE HOLY **** THAT'S A WAKE UP CALL YOU CAN'T IGNORE whereas China is proven to be immune to that. America has very serious problems but the vote is still only as toothless as is the public's attitude to care. China requires more engagement from the public to enact change because they don't even have what we have.