Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

I said this same **** to my friend. 2Pac is corny because he's a product of his time that didn't age well. It's mostly because of the flow. However having his dick sucked as if he's the greatest of all time didn't help his music from becoming corny.

ICP are also corny but they own it. To call them trash or unlistenable is just the trendy hip hop opinion people jump on.



If you don't think ICP has respect for hip hop you really don't know **** about ICP. If you think they don't have respect in hip hop you're living in the past. Interviewers are calling them hip hop legends now.

Plus, if you like Eminem then you have to respect the influence they and Esham had on his style change between Infinite and the Slim Shady EP. The whole Slim Shady gimmick was inspired by Detroit hip hop. Hell, the whole idea of Bonnie & Clyde (and Kim) was inspired by Twiztid's Murder Murder Murder because he heard it back when it was a House of Krazees song.

To echo Batlord, their story telling is their pinnacle. I'd say it's on par with Slick Rick.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.