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Old 11-03-2019, 04:19 PM   #19334 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista View Post
This place hurts my ****ing head sometimes. WTF point are you folks trying to arrive at?
My point (evolved from various other posts in a conversation from days ago that I'm not going to track down) is that you can't sit in your armchair and just play chess across the world because it removes the visceral moral element from your decision making as you have no connection to the places you're attempting to make decisions for. I mean you can but invariably the inhuman results of your decisions have consequences for real people who are not pieces on a chessboard and the result is the quagmire of death, genocide, oppression, and exploitation that has been the world for thousands of years.

There are nice, normal, non-sociopathic people right here who are voicing opinions they think are just and good that influence public policy that result in horrors thousands of miles away and to view that as simply the way things are and always will be and thus we should just accept it is for those nice normal people to shed their nice normality and become unfeeling robots who under no circumstances will ever care about the consequences of their country's actions. Our nice normal people can be ****s but they still hope for a world where their opinions they voice to our leaders result in a better world for everyone and if we're not working towards that in some ****ing way we might as well give up this whole human experiment right now.
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