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Old 01-05-2020, 04:19 PM   #66102 (permalink)
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No, Elph is actually right. Well, maybe for some people it's different, but I'm fully aware of the desperation of the human situation. Most people just feel like they get enough out of life to sit out the meaningless drag of it, I guess that's an instinctive will to live. Also, I think you idealise suicidal people: I agree that probably a higher percentage of them understands the meaningless of life, but there are also many of them who don't; a bullied teenager who suffers acutely and is suicidal does not necessarily consider human life meaningless. Also, I think many mass shootings are a misguided way of seeking some kind of glory, which means that those people don't understand the meaninglessness of life.
Is the instinctive will to live a reason to live? Is it a reason that will sustain the human race in perpetuity? If not then we need something else because eventually humans will probably instinctually argue themselves out of that instinct. Which is why I think people are shooting up schools. The mass shooters are like canaries in a coal mine realizing that life is meaningless and pointless and simply the first people most likely to opt out of that, but I don't think they'll be the last once human society culturally advances down that same route.
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