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Old 02-08-2020, 08:59 PM   #67458 (permalink)
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in both cases it would involve actually denying the genocide or some aspect of it, otherwise denier is simply the wrong charge to make.
No, since the ultimate objective is the same. To cast off moral responsibility so that your respective cultures can retain pride and moral high ground. You are in fact the American version of a German Holocaust denier.

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I didn't say it started as an accident, only that the vast majority of the body count was through the spread of disease.
Literally makes no difference unless Europeans sailed to the Americas specifically to spread disease.

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That's a relevant fact to me in judging the scale of the genocide, not whether there was a genocide. I brought it up because many people don't know that and most people speak as if it's not true. I think you see it as trivializing because you recognize instinctively that people catching diseases doesn't look as nefarious as rape and pillage, and you would just assume gloss over anything that has that affect.
When you brazenly open the entire discussion with "I'm done being guilty about" you are most definitely trivializing. Especially when you make no attempt to asterisk your point by explaining what Europeans actually are guilty of and what you think that means concerning the history of the Americas and the United States.

I mean as if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
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