No acctualy they can't really be described as ska. There baisically up beat punk with horns. None of there rythm or guitar has any ska charecteristics at all. Unfortunetly your right, and it is most commonly described as ska but its more of a ska/punk then anything. Once again Im not saying there bad, because I like all those bands but fact is there not ska. And theres plenty of aactual new ska out there to. Check out Eastern Standard Time, King Django, The Slackers, 2 1/2 White Guys, Chris Murray, and lots more.
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