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Old 06-03-2020, 12:47 PM   #6359 (permalink)
jwb
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Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
I don't feel like protest voting (or not voting) has ever or will ever accomplish anything

Hillary lost and we didn't get Bernie
This is just reiterating the same calculus we're all familiar with, but I think it's a mistake to regard it a waste to make a riskier vote just because you didn't win the election.

Like I said, it's very unlikely for a party to change fundamentally over night or for any non status quo option to emerge as victorious over a single election.

It's much more likely it will take years or even decades of failed attempts and shifts in the mainstream conversation. I would say the conversation actually changed more radically due to Sanders failed attempts than it did under 8 years of Obama.

Of course, there's more to it than just "the conversation," holding power has real implications in terms of court picks etc, but I don't think it's nearly so cut and dry is all.
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