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Old 07-27-2020, 01:12 PM   #21576 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
well basically, yes, that is what is happening

they're acting in bad faith, it's not free speech they really care about

it's similar to Gamergate inventing this ethics in video game journalism problem as a cover to harass and malign women
Fair enough. It's worth pointing out that these bad faith actors are not proper characterizations of what advocacy for free speech is. And I think (correct me if you think I'm wrong) that these bad-faith actors are a minority in what would constitute as people who advocate for free speech.

I'll have to take your word on the Gamergate stuff, I'm not familiar with that.

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I wonder if elphenor thought of that when he was making this exact point about self-proclaimed free speech advocates.
Cheeky. To elph's credit, this is probably what he meant. But he didn't call them "self-proclaimed free speech advocates" - he didn't make that delineation at all. As a result, it sounded like conflation.
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