Originally Posted by TheBig3

Yeah but that's really just asking for the music to be good, isn't it? Because I feel like the alternative proves my point.

If you're not moving the needle to a good song "because it's a whole piece of art, maaaan" then albums (which are an artificial measurement, to begin with) are just **** songs masquerading as art so they can't be criticized.

To answer your first question, Prog and art bands tend to do "whole pieces" and I just find it to be more pretension than passion.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.