I think Vaush definitely came out on top in the debate with basiat... Not as much with destiny despite how annoying and apergy destiny is.
If you watch the follow up debate between Vaush and Perspectivephilisophy it seems pretty evident that Vaushhas a fairly flimsy and borderline incoherent grasp of his own ethical system/beliefs. He falls back on a vague appeal to consequentialism but he hasn't thought it out well. When questioned on it more fundamentally he retreats to borderline solipsism which he says is egoism. Really he's just an unwitting nihilist who ironically has a conscious that he can't even explain or justify while still trying to advocate for others to adopt his views.
