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Originally Posted by jwb
Again, saying it's a good thing in the long term that we are out is fine but that doesn't mean the media isn't going to cover the ****ed up **** that is happening in the meantime right now... I don't understand why anyone would expect any different. They aren't picking on Biden. Any president who presided over this mess would have gotten the same coverage. I dare say it would have been even juicier if Trump had done it.
As for the idea that Biden was just so committed to getting out that he would accept how bad it got .. to me it really looks at it they just had really poor intelligence and completely underestimated the severity of the situation. If they had anticipated it i would think they would have been a little more prepared than they were...
I will say they did a decent job turning it around after the initial botch... The mass evacuations since then have been more successful... Something like 100k people from what i heard. I dunno if this will actually impact Biden that much long term or not but i refuse to sit here and praise him for this ****... Even the simple decision of pulling out... An easy decision to make at this point. Like you said very popular support for ending the war after 20 years. It's not that Biden is any wiser than Obama imo it's just a matter of timing.
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I'm saying intelligence from the NatSec apparatus wasn't to be trusted because they have a long-term interest in staying. As far as I know, the troops on the ground there were warned ISIS-k would try and strike on the way out. I don't know that it's true but I think Biden has shown on this front and on others he learned a lot from how they screwed over Obama.
Look, i definitely did that New Englander thing where I watched the news and said "Jesus Christ, I could have done better than this ****ing guy" but after I acknowledge it was bad, then what? Do I say we should impeach him in case he tries to withdraw from Afghanistan again? I've liked everything else he's been doing so far. I wish he'd do more but he's done the one thing the Democrats always **** up which is making the GOP choke on their non-scandals. He's trapped them between Suburban Independents and their base, and it's nice to see a Democrat no steal defeat from the jaws of victory.
I do wish, back to policy, he's do something about college tuition, criminal justice reform, and regional rail, but politics is politics and he shouldn't until after the midterms, or you'll only give the House back to this current GOP.
Shutout to Texas for taking the heat off the withdrawal by the way. They're doing what their base wants at the cost of national elections and we love you for it.