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Old 03-01-2022, 12:09 PM   #179 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
the opposite take that there are just evil nations acting independent of any global influence is equally naive though

Putin has good reason to see Ukraine potentially joining NATO as an expansion of Western power (particularly the US) because it is

this doesn't justify the atrocities being committed, and Putin may very well be losing it...but given the US track record on human rights when it doesn't serve our goals of complete global dominance, let's not be totally naive about this
Duh another country joining NATO strengthens NATO. Just like Ukraine being in Russia's sphere of influence strengthens Russia. All those former Soviet states joined NATO for a reason and Russia isn't willing to give Georgia or Ukraine the option to choose for a reason. Of course hegemonic powers are going to try to undermine each other but America absolutely had no need to put in Putin's head that he should dominate Ukraine. Russia wants to do that America or no America.
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