I'm of the opinion that there is no such thing as the genre "emo". Once upon a time, there was. Now the closest thing you can have would be Saves the Day. Emo, is... a state of mind? I'm trying not to delve too deeply into hyperbole. Many many bands have emo songs, put off an emo vibe. Even some nu-metal like chevelle, or some hardcore, like Tear Us Apart. I would say both of the bands you asked about indeed do have emo songs, and that emo vibe. That's just my two cents.
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I've got platinum vision, and a tinfoil touch, I've got you to propel me, but still I need so much not to be... alone
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