Even some of the bands you posted, (I like some, others I hate), kind of further proves an old point of mine.
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Slayer isn't really a metal band
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Music progresses with time, and you'd be slapped for saying that back in the 90's by some people =P
All those bands are mostly new-age bands, the new "metal" bands. That's like some kid saying, "Iron Maiden isn't metal, if you want metal listen to Lamb Of God." The guys who wrote the "Metal Education Thread", did a great job of summing up what I mean.