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Old 10-16-2006, 12:30 PM   #1920 (permalink)
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You live…you learn.
And if there's one thing I've learnt, it's that governments only do things when there's something in it for them.

For "what’s doing best for the world", read...what’s doing best to maintain the status quo.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticising the U.S or my own government here. I believe they have little choice.
What I do criticise however, is the "we do it for world peace" routine.

Yes, we are a part of the U.N. but since when did the U.S./U.K. take any notice of the U.N.?
Certainly not concerning Iraq, or Israel for that matter.

I'm a cynical person when it comes to politics. I believe, as I stated in an earlier post, that if we don't…someone else will.
I believe that Iraq, Iran and Korea (Korea to a lesser and more indirect way) are not so much a military threat, but are more an economical threat, to the future of the western world.
In Iraq and Iran's case, it's for oil. As for Korea, they pose a threat to the stability of South East Asia.
And there lurking in the background...China.

Here's how, in my opinion, it will pan out.
Put diplomatic pressure on Iran and Korea over their nuclear policy.
Using the U.N. initially, with the U.K. and Japan providing political support, respectively.
Which ultimately fails.
Invade Iran (if Israel don't bomb Iran's nuclear plants first, which they have in the past) under the usual "terrorist/freedom for it's people" excuse. Yes they are a threat, but that's a side line.
Install a Democratic government…do business.
Non of which, incidentally will reduce the threat of terror. Quite the reverse!
This achieves many objectives;

1. Control of middle eastern oil for the west.
2. Send a clear and serious message to Korea, of how we deal with rogue nuclear wannabe states, in the hope that they buy the bluff.
3. Puts pressure on China to find a solution. And here's the end game. China becomes a democracy.

Like I said oojay…I'm a cynic.
Maybe the U.S. really are the 7th Cavalry and Bush is General Custer…and I'm the Pope.
fisrt off please dont blow smoke up my ass and treat me like im stupid, ok Benedict XVI? i do agree with you that governments only do things when there's "something" in it for them. in the case of north korea that "something" for the US government would be......NOT GETTING NUKED?! a worthy goal in my eyes. and i guess youre right on maintaing the staus quo, b/c we havent been nuked yet, so i guess technically that is the status quo. but thinking that the US wants to bully north korea just to send a mesage to iran, whom we will then invade for their oil is completely absurd. if you knew what you were talking about you would realize that the US imports more oil each from brazil, argentina, and canada than iran. and people said that we invaded iraq for oil, but last time i checked gas was about $3.00/gallon. it just doesnt add up now does it? now i realize youre a cynic, but i know youre not stupid. try viewing this from a wider perspective before rushing to liberal left-wing judgments about things.
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