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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow
All those genres came after pop punk though. If pop punk isn't plain punk then what is.
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No, anarcho punk came around about the same time as popular punk acts.
That alone makes your argument flawed.
Besides, just because punk bands like The Sex Pistols and The Ramones were highly marketed, it doesn't mean they set the standard for all punk to come.
Also, art punk bands like Television, Wire, and Suicide came well before The Ramones and The Clash, they were the bands first referred to as punk, so why aren't you calling art punk plain punk?
This argument also applies to other genres, for instance, emo.
Usurp Synapse doesn't sound like Rites of Spring, but they are both in the same genre, screamo being a subgenre of emo.
Though detestable, popular punk is a subgenre of punk.