Music Banter - View Single Post - The Great Global Warming Swindle
View Single Post
Old 03-13-2007, 07:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
riseagainstrocks
Music Addict
 
riseagainstrocks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: DC
Posts: 3,320
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jibber View Post
There have been SOOO many threads on this, that often go on for pages and pages and pages about weather or not global warming is real, argument afte argument for both sides, some valid, some downright retarded. My only comment on it is, to anyone who doesn't believe in global warming; what if you're wrong? the consequnses of global warming (if we're assumng everything we've been told is 100% true and will happen) are SO severe, and SO damaging, isn't it worth working to stop and reverse those effects even if you're not 100% sure if it's really going on or not?
You are wrong for several reasons (please watch the whole video, as it will expand on the points I am about to make)

1. It's not global warming that's the issue. I believe and all scientist do, that the earth is heating up. The point to contigentcy is whether or not humans have any direct impact/can do anything about it. And the answer is we can't.

2. Greenhouse gases make up roughly .4-1% of the gases in our enviroment. CO2 makes up roughly .02 of the gases in our atmosphere. Water vapor is a much more prevalent and "dangerous" greenhouse gas, and yet you don't see an uproar on that.

3. Dying vegitation and the ocean produce 12 times the amount of CO2 that humans do. So if we can't drive cars or fly planes anymore, let's evaporate the oceans and destroy all the forest too. Better safe than sorry right?

4. As the video goes to explain, enviromental journalists have a very political agenda. Telling the press that the worst that could happen is that the seas rise by 1-2 feet won't get you news attention, so you increase it to 10-20 feet, and your name is in print and you're in demand as a journalist.

5. And the solution that is proposed by all these "activists" who use pseudo-science to get their political agenda across is too drastically cut back on industry. This has 2 major ramifications: 1. This means that the 3rd world can't develop. No electricity, not power plants, no modern essentials (cars, trains, planes), nothing. 2. Cutting back industry reduces capital. Less money results in less research. The solution to reducing greenhouse gas emissions isn't in cutting back buisness, but to allow them to invest funds in finding out ways to control it.

6. The reason given for the heating a cooling of the earth (by the way in the 70's the scare was that the world was headed toward another Ice Age) in the video is that of sunspot activity on the sun. Sunspots are periods of intense magnetic energy, and as a result the energy output is greatly increased. As far back as the records show (mid 1600's) there is a very intimate relationship (+.76) between Sunspot activity and Global temperature. During the "Little Ice Age" of the 1700's, sunspot activity was very low, and the river Thames froze over in England!

7. All in all, this is a media driven big buisness. Look behind the "facts".


And TUTG, this isn't a conspiracy theory, if anything, the pro-humans cause GW are conspiracy theorist.
__________________
One note timeless, came out of nowhere...
riseagainstrocks is offline   Reply With Quote