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Old 03-29-2007, 08:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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U.S. Senate passes bill ordering Iraq pullout

attempt # 197,362,056,395,484 at a mature, intelligent, and informed political discussion on MB starts now.

annnnndddd go!

first off, any takers of a bush veto on this? It'll be interesting to see if he does veto it. He certainly wont agree, but there are more than a few higher up republicans who would support a pull out. they've been there far too long, it's time to get out let the "government" in iraq settle in *laugh*. The situation is a mess, but it's being complicated by the american troops being there. I certainly dont have a solution to the problem, and anyone who claims they do (on here anyways) is an idiot, but it's gotten far past the point where they can do any more help. The one question I have is, HOW could this administration have NOT see this coming? For CHIST'S SAKE you've got a country where the majority population has been oppressed by the minority for decades, these factions have been clashing since the birth of the Islamic religion. How can ANYONE in that administration think that "we didn't see this coming" is an acceptable response? Althouh, I must remember not to overestimate Bush's intelligence. This is the man after all who when told about the possible complications of Sunni and Shia feuds responded with "I thought they were all muslims over there". This is the same administration who was blind enough to believe that bringing democracy to this country after carpet bombing them would turn out to be a win-win situation. Of course its not, the curret "governent" wont last long. when the next government is voted in, what are the odds that after all this, a theocracy will take its place? I'm going with highly likely.

Too many civilians have died, too much money has been poured into this disaster of a war. The approach isnt working on any level. More american troops have died in the global war on terrorism than in the first 3 years of the vietnam war. Its not working, an entirely new strategy is needed to mend this now.
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