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Old 03-30-2007, 05:33 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver View Post
I know that adidasss previous posts were a complete mess (you know this too Marijan!), but this post was right on the ball.

Totalitarianism + the occasional dissenter being picked off > So-called 'democracy' which is actually violent anarchy + lots of people being killed every day.

You're right that the seed was planted when the UK designated countries according to which lines looked pretty on a map. The same thing has happened in Africa where tribes who have a history of fighting each other over land boundaries are suddenly told that they are actually part of the same country... while half of their own tribe now belongs to a different country.

While the UK (and other western countries) had a strong footing in these places the boundaries weren't necessarily stupid as they were convenient for administration but once the countries became more indepedent then those boundaries became completely impractical. Each individual groups has a pretty reasonable claim to the land which was already theirs, but the resistance of the governments who oversee those artifical boundaries and the fact that there might not be that much evidence as to exactly WHERE the original boundaries were makes it very difficult for the original countries to be reinstated. And the unfairness of this is a powerful spark for violence.

If you artificially create a new country through which run the boundaries of old countries... then you've created a war zone.
thats not really the issue here. There's really no fighting over land rights as there is in palestine, it's pretty much all to do with the history of violence against different ethnic groups. For decades, the shias were persecuted by the minority sunnis, the kurds had been enduring a genocide for years as well, and now that the shias are finally in power, they're exacting revenge on the sunni community. It also creates an interesting dynamic with iran as well. You've got an extremely anti-american theocracy in iran, a country with approximately 90% shias. There's now an INCREDIBLY unstable and vulnerable shia government in Iraq. What a great situation bush has created here. It conveniently gives him more of a "reason" to create conflict with iran, as they're supplying arms to iraq. However, there seemed to have been no problem with the US supplying arms to iraq durring the iran/iraq war, or to the taliban when they were fighting russia....
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