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Old 05-20-2007, 03:13 PM   #357 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog View Post
Examples? How about he created all of his own solos, which not only gave metallica the counterpuntal interplay responsible for giving metal a shot of classical, but he also brought a strong sense of harmony on any track that would allow for it.
They had harmony before Kirk - after all Cliff Burton was a great bassist. And Kirk definitely didn't write all of his own solos - Hammett had no part at all in the acoustic intros to Battery and Fight Fire With Fire, in Nothing Else Matters, One, or in the instrumentals Orion and Call of Ktulu. Hammett didn't write that much on AJFA or S/T - he definitely doesn't write all of his solos. Just have a look at the credits for each album to see this.

And even when Hammett does write his solos, they tend to be nothing special. E.g. the same pattern played and moved up the fretboard fret by fret, then wah wah pedal added far too often. That is a typical Hammett solo and it gets repetitive. Of course, there are exceptions.

But by the time you take away the parts which were written by Hetfield/Burton/Mustaine, and you take away the average solos, there's really not that much left.

Metallica wasn't the first bringer of classical to metal - don't forget about guitarists like Malmsteen, Ritchie Blackmore and Randy Rhoads.

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The lack of respect for Kirk is largely due to ignorance, deafness, a lack of ever hearing metallica or all three. I know its the bag for metal "fans" these days to trash metallica because they decided to sing, but it doesn't mean you can just make things up.
Whether metal fans will admit it or not, a huge majority have listened to most of Metallica's discography. Show me where I'm making things up...

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As for lars, he does what he needs to. You can't have an act full of superstars without sounding like Phish or moe. I think something you guys (meaning metal fans) forget is that some people like a base to work off of, and lars certainly provides that, with I'd say largely decent results. Not many bands are stadium worthy, Metallica certainly is.

And because of the amazing ridiculousness of this thread, I'll finish with
Well you can say that any rhythm musician does what he/she needs to - it doesn't stop them from being mediocre.
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