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Originally Posted by The Unfan
Going in caused massive damage to our reputation. At this point both toughing it out or leaving would look bad regardless. Expand on what you think the probable outcome of either decision would be?
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For one, the Bagdad police force is still underdeveloped, so they still need us around for social services.
Toughing it out, well, it puts more troops at risk. And thats something I hate to say, but if we were to leave right now, then the various casualties truly would have been in vain. We should weigh it out until we achieve what we said we were going to do.
People criticize our involvement because they think in the long run Iraq will return to a theocratic Islamist state, but I only see this happening if we leave Iraq in its current state, if we leave now, than this is what the radical Islamists will think.
We came to Iraq for oil, we kill many Iraqis, we say we were going to do something we never did because of peer pressure from the left (whom Islamists dispise more than anyone) and leave Iraq with an underdeveloped goverment and a unresolved civil war we inadvertently started. If we wait until we assure that the Iraqi goverment is good and ready, we can happly say that Islamists will only hate us for those first two reasons.
Extremists just look desperately for excuses to hate America, if we stay, they will hate us for occupying their country, if we leave, they will hate us for leaving their country in ruins and not doing anything to help them. And that would be even worse.
But helping them is difficult, and why? Because some of them show their appreciation by blowing themselves up (and even blowing their children up) and killing our troops, why do we put up with it? I have no idea. Even if we did invade Iraq just for oil, well, that dosen't matter anymore, we're trying to help them now, and it would be easier if the Sunnis and Shi‘ites weren't so goddamn emo.