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Originally Posted by Ace
No reply? I made my reply on the lyrics AND filler point before you even decided to post (why you even did post is a mystery).
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Um, you just said song with lyrics like that are too good to be filler. I replied to both those points. Here are, I think my most extensive replies to those points.
"The lyrics are banal, comparing man to monkey is extremely cliche. Maynard isn't a good lyricist, Tool fanboys go on and on about how he's amazing but he's really not, he's completely average, that song is no exception. I can think of several songs about war that are way better written then that. Your Revolution is a Joke is a fairly recent one by a mediocre band (Funeral for a Friend) and even THEY do better."
"Lyrics don't save a song, it doesn't take a fan to realize that. When someone calls something filler you can go on about it being unique and fans liking it or whatever that's valid, going "it has good lyrics!11" doesn't change anything, especially when the lyrics really aren't that good."
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I said in nearly every post, you commenting on why you thought it was filler afterwards, was just fine. You seem to keep dodging why I posted in the first place. I just said you should have explained it in your first post, rather than just call it filler.
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I replied to what you posted in the first place, you didn't just say once I should've explained. Even after I explained you kept going on and on about how I should, I explained, you need to shut up about it. I've even-reposted it several times.
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I'm not making my whole argument around that point, it's just something you ignored for a while.
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I explained it only
two posts after I said filler is filler, I didn't ignore it for awhile.
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And that was the end of the discussion right there. The entire reason the discussion was even started.
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*sigh* I explained it two pages ago, this discussion wasn't even necessary. Several times I've tried to drag it back to what I said but you keep insisting on arguing this.
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I said that ages ago. "If you had explained why you felt it filler in the first post, it would have been good musical criticism." Pardon the paraphrase. But that right there was my entire point, and the only thing I was implying the entire time. I don't know why it's taken so many posts to finish. If you don't like a band, make a valid comment about it, and move on. That is mainly what I'm getting at.
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God this is starting to get annoying. I MADE MY VALID COMMENTS, I MADE BOTH THEM OVER TWO PAGES AGO SHUT THE F
UCK UP. I WILL, ONCE AGAIN, REPOST THEM SINCE YOU CAN'T SEEM TO COMPREHEND I MADE THEM MAYBE YOU WILL ACTUALLY REPLY TO THEM INSTEAD OF BITCHING ABOUT THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER.
"The lyrics are banal, comparing man to monkey is extremely cliche. Maynard isn't a good lyricist, Tool fanboys go on and on about how he's amazing but he's really not, he's completely average, that song is no exception. I can think of several songs about war that are way better written then that. Your Revolution is a Joke is a fairly recent one by a mediocre band (Funeral for a Friend) and even THEY do better."
"Lyrics don't save a song, it doesn't take a fan to realize that. When someone calls something filler you can go on about it being unique and fans liking it or whatever that's valid, going "it has good lyrics!11" doesn't change anything, especially when the lyrics really aren't that good."