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Originally Posted by the pagey
So, define metal. By define I mean a definition that everybody would agree with. Can't do it? You know that almost everyone has a different idea of what metal 'really' is and what it should sound like. To my mind nu-metal bands like Korn and Slipknot are as metal as Metallica or Slayer. Sure they are different but isn't different a good thing? Without change we'd all be listening to Jimi Hendrix or Deep Purple and thinking they were 'really heavy'!
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I don't think many are qualified to give a definition of metal, I know I am not. However with Nu Metal, it is easy to say what they are (or not) in order to see that they are not metal. Well they have strong influences in funk, hip hop, grunge, Mr Bungle (Korn apparently claims to use the "Mr Bungle Chord", alternative, and small metal tendencies (and I am not trying to pull and BS). So they took a few pointers from Pantera, then they made a rock based genre with the tag "metal" because of their dropped D tuning. It has stronger influences in grunge, rock, and hip hop and downtuned it to make the genre we see as Nu Metal. Also not only do they lack any metal style drumming, but they generally follow a rock, or groove rhythm, and lack in riffs that we can see as 'metal'.
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And the Emo tag? Doesn't it mean emotion? (Isn't it therefore a completely meaningless tag? Barry White was emotional!) But the bands who are given that tag like Finch or Funeral For A Friend can play good, hard hitting music. It isn't punk. It isn't rock. I'd call it metal.
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It is a subgenre of Hardcore I believe. It is more rooted in punk rock and takes hardly and metal influences.
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(BTW, I really don't consider bands like Limp Bizkit and their ilk to be metal, whoever lumped them into the nu-metal genre was obviously a closet boyzone fan!)
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They are Nu Metal.