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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen
We---hell...there were enough sweeping statements to respond to there than are even worth my while. Here's a pretty major hint, though: try to understand what other people are saying first before responding to them. You haven't really got that far yet. What's "pretty sad" is that you're arguing for the sake of arguing, and you know it full well.
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What? They were pretty accurate, you havn't listed when the cut off date for being a new band is. All the bands you have mentioned fit into your standards of "old" thus making them invalid for being discussed, you HAVE been treating it like british indie=mainstream radio etc. Your argument is weak and full of holes, don't be pissed because you're being called on it. Even if I was arguing for the sake of it it doesn't change the fact your argument is weak.
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Spend your time better and actually tell of these wonderful new things happening in the scene that you seem to "know" about.
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Sure thing: Amusement Parks on Fire, Jo Apps, The Strange Death of Liberal England, The Pirate Ship Quintet, Throw Stephanie in the Incinerator, Red Paper Dragon, Fall of Efrafa, Bat For Lashes, Aotea, Katie Melua.
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The radio point was responding to what you were saying about radio. I had not previously brought up radio in this thread to my knowledge. I'm not interested in it and don't listen to it - except for the routine playlist check from time to time, and that I can do on their websites.
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I just didn't understand why you were bitching about how bad hearing this music was seeing as its way worse in other places. I'd rather hear the Libertines than Spears.
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As for not knowing much of the scene, I go through all the mags, a hell of a lot of review sites, and get bands recommended to me by people in the scene pretty much on a daily basis. I go on their lousy myspace blogs and listen. I'm not talking from nothing here.
You want a long list of useless acts of 2006 to the present date, I'll post'em. Don't see where it gets us exactly.
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Let me get this straight, you're going to make general statements about an entire countries indie scene and insult it YET you don't see the point in listing the bands you're insulting?
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Besides, I MADE THIS THREAD BECAUSE I WANT TO BE DIRECTED TO DECENT ONES.
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Yet when decent ones are pointed out you bitch about them being the minority and you never mentioned you wanted decent ones till now? It's not just England where the crappy bands are held higher than the better ones, that's everywhere.
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What part of that do you not understand? I'm dismissing what I know and have been exposed to for a long while now. I'm not denying that there's something better. I just want to see what and where it is. You can either help in that regard, or you can keep arguing and trying to look smart. Either way, I'm not interested in those sorts of games. I'm here for a civil discussion. Not a petty argument.
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You go on and make ridiculous claims and stupid arguments someone is going to say something.
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Finally, I just noticed this. Like, what the hell? First of all, I'm a Wolf fan. SECONDLY, and more importantly, it wouldn't have proven me wrong. I'm making statements about the general state of the scene. Of course there are good things coming out here and there from time to time. I won't count Wolf simply for the reasons that he's already got 3 albums out and has been active for many years. He's not new in the sense I'd intended. But again, more importantly, even if I count him, it makes no difference to the essence of my claim.
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But the bands you're bitching about aren't new either. You're not very clear here, first you just say the british indie scene sucks so I list Patrick Wolf then you say he isn't new (which somehow means he isn't part of the british indie scene) I don't even know what you're arguing about it seems like pointless bitching to me.