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Old 02-07-2008, 01:04 PM   #42 (permalink)
Miltamec Soundsquinaez
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Yeah there's something supporting it on his site because he isn't going to use them to work with his campaign. He was using them in help passing a bill (an issue that has nothing to do with his presidency.) I doubt Obama is as blind as Hillary anyway to think that lobbyists represent the working class of America, Hillary's been accepting money from them that article just says Obama's been dealing with them.
What the.......? A lobbyist is a lawyer who works for a huge corporation. Lobbyists have meetings with politicians, and persuade the politician to make laws that will greatly, greatly enhance their company's profit (usually in excess of millions of dollars annually). You seem to have confused lobbyist money with campaign donation money. There's nothing illegal or even immoral about accepting campaign donations.

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No and I never said I would either. I said out of the republicans I'd pick him.
Yes, but most people don't vote for a republican and a democrat in the primaries. They pick the one candidate they want to win. I'm not even sure if it's legal to vote 2 candidates in the primaries.

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Can you please tell me how she has their interests at heart? I'm dying to hear this one because I've seen her as nothing more than a corporate whore.
As Senator of New York, she had the people's interest at heart. She outlawed trans fat, this stuff that tastes good, but is extremely bad for you. It wasn't a very popular decision, but it was the right one. So even though she can be unpopular at times, she still cares about people.


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You're aware she still helped fund the war after that right?
I'll have to look into that. It may be true. I don't know.
edit: I just googled Hillary funded war, and the only info. I got was saying that Hillary voted against funding the war. Perhaps you could provide with me a link to your information.

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Because you keep going on about being anti-sexist and how we should elect her to get rid of sexism, you never said "Hey good thing ones a minority and one's a woman" until now. Besides if Hillary messes up all that's going to happen is its going to set woman in politics back 20 years, so it's not as great as you seem to think it is.
Ditto for Obama. And, you claim we shouldn't vote her in just because she's a woman. Well, if things go wrong under her presidency, it shouldn't be blamed on the fact that she's a woman. If it was, that would be the stupid American public's fault, not mine.

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It's obviously not affecting her much right now.
Like I said above, I'm not sure you can even vote for each party, so if that's the case, the people who really despise her most (Republicans) will really turn out the vote against her, come presidency time, at a time when Republicans voting outside their party is as likely as it has ever been right now.

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