You could call me a moron of you like but it would just destroy the credibility of your self righteousness , seeing as everybody in this thread has managed to not decend into personal abuse.
And I would say all 4 of those bands could be covered under the modern generic indie rock term in some way or another , regardless of whether they actually are or not.
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