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Originally Posted by Oomph!
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Isn't that essentially what I said previously? Are you conceding to (our) point or...?
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The pop punk style emerged at the onset of punk rock around 1974, with the Ramones, however it was not considered a separate subgenre until later.
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That's what quill said, not me.
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Where?
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No, if you actually took a moment and read back to those posts, you'd realize he was reffering to the question "Is punk the same thing as pop-punk". Good try though.
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I'll let him explain then.