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Originally Posted by The Unfan
This is bad how? You create a job market and strengthen the economy all without hurting someone. The people hurting the children should be punished, but the consumer and the market shouldn't be punished as they didn't actually do anything wrong. It'd be like penalizing someone because they laughed at a car wreck, or for downloading footage of someone being killed.
I agree they're not actors and that what is being done to them is very, very bad. To be honest it is probably one of the most disgusting examples of human depravity, and it churns my stomach just thinking about the sick bastards comitting such acts. However, I still stand by the idea that nobody should be punished for feeling enjoyment, or for owning something that brings said enjoyment as long as they themselves don't impede the rights and freedoms of others, and I'll be damned if watching a video in the privacy of my own home is damaging to anyone.
What if their reason isn't because its marketable, but rather the marketability is just an aside?
And this seems to be the notion we're not agreeing on.
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No, we're not agreeing on that notion, mostly because you seem to be incapable of comprehending cause and effect in this situation. Pedophiles buying the videos put money into the pockets of those doing the crime. I've said all I can say on this issue, because we are both repeating ourselved. The fact remains that possessing child porn in not an isolated incident. It does not start and end with the videotape that was bought or downloaded. It started with a child being raped for the purpose of selling the video footage to pedophiles. It then transfered to the person who buys that videotape, which brings it back to the person who commited the rape by giving them more money, and more resources. There is a DIRECT connection from the person raping the child in the video, to the person buying the video, and BACK to the person who raped the child initially. Your problem is that you are viewing the possession of the video as an isolated incident, which it IN NO WAY IS. you're being obtuse, you're disregarding a huge portion of the process, and you're looking at a harmful and disgusting practice (and yes, i AM talking about posessing child porn) as a something entirely detached from the act which is going on in the video, which is not only incredibly narrow-minded, it's offensive. As of now i'm done with this issue. I'm done speaking to someone who refuses to look at the situation for what it is instead of how it appears by their stilted legal definitions. And i'm done debating with someone who really has no idea what they're talking about, because they've never seen first hand children who are growing up with emotional and physical scars after being sold as a sex slave and raped and abused for years for the benefit of the pedophiles back in north america who are simply "getting enjoyment."
oh, and just so I won't have to do this later, and so it's clear where my arguments are coming from, take a good look at this photo. That's me in the photo in the orphanage in Phnom Penh, Cambodia I spent two months working in. The girl I have my arm around is named Chantrea. She was 13 when this photo was taken, and two years before then she had been resuced from a brothel. Her parents had died of AIDS, and she was kidnapped from the street she was living on and put to work as a sex slave when she was 9 years old. She spent two years being raped for the pleasure of those pedophiles you are so adamantly defending. And yes, I know that videotapes were being made from that brothel because I read the report from the organization that shut down that brothel. Two more of my girls had suffered similar abuse.
That's nice that your world is so neatly defined and packaged. But some of us live in the real world and have actually seen the real effects of those videotapes.
as an afterthought, I would tell you exactly what I think of you and your ideas, but I don't think it's neccesary. I think this photo and my reasons for thinking the way I do do far more to describe your morals and values than words ever could.