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Originally Posted by Crowquill
If you don't sell you're not popular. Sales and popularity are two things that go hand in hand and I don't care about your crappy cookie analogy just argue the subject.
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Let's put it this way, sales require popularity but popularity does not require selling ( as in physically selling a product).
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Generalizations are usually wrong, but congrats on making one.
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Generalizations are generallytrue (just 'in general'). Especially this one.
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Yes, you're using contradicting sources. Good job!
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Not contradicting, they are all essentially saying the same thig, pop music is music designed to sell not to express passion or art.
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gave you the option to get it for free.
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They profited from the album, they knew most people would feel obligated to pay money (to assure that they were 'true fans' or what not), it wasn't really free in the way we are speaking of.
Had they released the album to be given out or downloaded without the option of paying money, just plain, flat out free, no profit accepted, THAT would have been 'free' in our context.
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Once again sweeping generalizations will get you nowhere.
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I'm talking about the genre of pop music IN GENERAL anyway, it's only appropriate that I speak in generalizations, I'm not talking about any specific act.
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Based on sales, PLAYS, ETC, there's more to it than sales.
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It (pop music) is based on profit/sales/money (there are several ways to describe it), profit/sales/money is in turn based on things like plays and popularity etc. Pop music doesn't exist to get plays and popularity, it exists to make money which in itself is
determined by plays and popularity, ect.
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Please explain whats the common thread between being talked about and being played alot and record sales, since it isn't popularity.
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It's
many things, including popularity. They are all 'factors' that effect 'sales' or 'profit', which is the root concept beind pop music.
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Can you read? There's one key word here that ruins that argument.
"Pop music is music charted by the number or sales, plays, etc., that the work receives.[1] Most commercial music of any genre is composed with deliberate intent to appeal to the majority of its contemporaries
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It doesn't ruin my argument, I openly admit that I'm speaking of the genre "IN GENERAL", remember this:
"pop is a corporate enforcing, establishment building movement"
I'm not talking about any specific act or category or anything like that.
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And I have a question why do you need to keep citing sources? If this all so true and you know it so well you should be able to stand on your own feet instead of hiding behind sources.
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See the problem with that is pop isn't what you said it is
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That sounds like a request for sources to me.