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Originally Posted by Oomph!
I just said it is possible to be popular without selling things. I really don't give a s*** how the arctic monkeys became sucessful before they sold thier album, it's besides the point. They probably released a single first or something.
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You don't need singles or an album to be popular. Led Zeppelin never released any singles but they were still popular...weird concept huh?
Aside from that of course they released a single but singles aren't something people tend to go rush out and buy because your average music shop doesn't typically carry them and most people don't typically care to go and buy them. They become the biggest band in Britain at that time without even releasing an album, you don't need to sell to be popular.
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Yes I DO have evidence, I posted 3 sources (2 if you don't care for wiki) and I could give you more if you'd like.
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You still haven't told me who you're other two sources were, I've never heard of the two guys. This is the fourth time I've asked you.
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Can't you read? I just said that I am speaking of the genre IN GENERAL, which translates to MOST, not ALL.
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"pop is a corporate enforcing, establishment building movement" implies all, you never specifically stated most. You're being so condescending about me not being able to read but you can't even comprehend what you're saying.
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A. Ok, so I guess you really can't read. I didn't say "You can't be popular without sales". I said "You can't sell without popularity"
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If I couldn't read I couldn't reply to you in the first place.
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B. They SOLD the album, not in a traditional way but they did. People PAYED MONEY to PURCHASE the album, and they then collected on a PROFIT.
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They still gave you the option to get it for free which plenty of people took advantage of and no doubt led to even more coverage/popularity. It wasn't some simple itunes pay to get it thing, it was do what you want to get it thing. In Rainbow's popularity can very much be attributed to the free option.
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Further proof you can't read. I never siad ALL pop musicians this nor "ALL pop that.
I said "pop musicians this" and "pop musicians that"
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I repeat: ""pop is a corporate enforcing, establishment building movement" implies all, you never specifically stated most. You're being so condescending about me not being able to read but you can't even comprehend what you're saying."
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It's called 'advertising', and oh yes, it does make you money.
It boosts your sales, yes it does.
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You don't earn money off of it it only gives you exposure which attributes to your popularity not sales. Unless of course you can provide me with some sort of evidence when your album gets reviewed you somehow start making money off of it. Indirectly it could lead to album sales yes but that doesn't mean you make money off of that good review.
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Never said popularity automatically garnishes sales, I said popularity is required to garnish (allot) of sales, again with the illeteracy.
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lol illiteracy*
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Just some of the biggest purely-pop, mainstream acts of all time....
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So Nsync and Britney Spears represent pop in its entirety? Including the stuff from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s? How very ignorant of you.
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Originally Posted by Oomph!
I was reffering to Led Zepplin when I said that, I didn't realize you were speaking of Pink Floyd because in the post just before it we were talking about LZ.
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"HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHA Pink Floyd a hard rock band?! We're talking about the band that recorded Bike and Comfortably Numb right!? Christ why don't you listen to the music before you even try and say what it is and isn't."
Where did I mention Led Zeppelin?
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Pink Floyd is hard rock (among many things) though, yes, they are.
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How is Pink Floyd hard rock? There's hardly anything hard about Pink Floyd please explain this opinion and don't reply with it "LOLS VH1 SAID SO!!111"
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Originally Posted by Oomph!
I'm not talking about music from yesterdecade, I'm not talking about music NOW, so that really doesn't matter.
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We're arguing about pop music, pop music has been around for a very long time so yes you do have to argue "yesterdecade" because we're arguing pop. Well actually we're arguing pop and punk, both come from "yesterdecade" either way we're definitely talking about music from "yesterdecade." I mean c'mon we we're just talking about Floyd a quote up, you realize they started out in the 60s right?