Originally Posted by SubPop

I don't think any of them are heavy metal, but whatever you want to call them that is fine.

I can deal with Fudge Tunnel having metal attached to their name.

Helmet....meh I think helmets roots were more in the heavy alternative rock scene than any metal scene. I first saw Helmet live in 1993 and they supported Sonic Youth and Mudhoney. Hardly a metal gig. These days I think they are lumped into the metal scene as their detunned riff-o-rama sounds have been coppied by many (nu) metal bands.

The Melvins are not metal they never have been. If you must use that horrible word (grunge) fine they are heavy grunge but they are not metal.

You need to realise that heavy does not mean metal.