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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
Well I don't know if I'd want to count it as a "freedom" per say but does the presence of government allow certain things to happen that you'd argue allow you to enjoy other freedoms?
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The government can create situations that prevent an attack on freedoms. For instance the constitution prevents even the government from restricting certain freedoms and thus making them more accessible and enjoyable. I think thats the kind of thing you're getting at? If so, yes definitely.
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Certainly the government doesn't prevent Murder, but laws dissuade people from doing so, or any number of lesser crimes that might not be prevented otherwise?
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Agreed.
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Similarly, governments create things like sewer systems, roadways and transit routes that allow us to more easily go places we'd not otherwise be able to do?
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People can create these things without the government. However, the government makes doing this easy.
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Originally Posted by Anarcho-Capitalist Fancy Pants
The bottom line is, we do need to weaken our government, whether you are for a libertarian stance or not. Otherwise, as Ron Paul said, we will become a fascist theocracy. Now I don't agree with the theocracy part so much, but we are going in a fascist direction.
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Actually, I think we're dangerously close to a Christian theocracy as it is. Although I don't 100% agree with the libertarian stance, they're certainly a lot better than what we currently have.