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Originally Posted by WendyCal
you may rest assured that the founding fathers were all Christian
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Not true. Adams, Washington, etc. all had doubts, and Jefferson was, at best, an agnostic. Try this text: "Moral minority : our skeptical Founding Fathers."
I wonder how you would react if a majority of Americans were, say, Islamic, and wanted to teach Islamic idealogy in the public schools. As it is, evolution is taught as a theory in
science class. There is no science in creationism. Leave it for philosophy classes.
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Originally Posted by WendyCal
Yeah, and, no, we don't have separation of church and state the way you're saying ~ our whole country was built on the Christian beliefs of the people that tried to set this all up for us. Remember 'In God We Trust?' This is another one of those things that was settled ages ago, i thought... <sigh>
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Our country was economically built on slavery and the idea that women, Native Americans, etc. were not real people. Should we revert to that as well? What about child labor, widespread lynchings, etc.?
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Back to Barry ~ Okay, so his agreement that partial birth abortions are just fine is ethically and morally correct? Something that you really have no problem with? ~ Oh! and, just in case you don't truly know what that means, it means that the embryo/baby was ALIVE and healthy, and then, for whatever reason, rather gruesomely killed. You can do your own search on that ~ i couldn't get past the first one i looked at...
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The fetus is a part of the woman's body. If she wants to cut off her own hand, who am I (or you, or anyone else) to tell her not to? The same goes for abortions.
I like John Lydon's quote on this: "Morals ain't got nothing to do with it. It's immoral to bring a child into the world and not give a toss about it."