I saw VNV Nation live their last 4 tours (Empire, Futureperfect, Matter & Form, and Judgement). Although I agree that this band is not as much Industrial as much as EBM. I hated Matter & Form (w/ the exception of the single Chrome), but the other 3 CDs I mentioned were fantastic. A few of my friends (that went w/ me) are actually more hardcore into it, but I think it's good music to groove to. I mean seriously, who can't dance to Solitary, Standing, Joy, Honour (2003 edit), Momentum, and of course Kingdom and Fragments...
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