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Old 11-02-2008, 01:48 AM   #301 (permalink)
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Intelligence changes. Fact is that evidence pointed to a link between Al-Qaeda and Saddam. Evidence pointed to WMDs and chemical weapons in Iraq. Congress saw the evidence and agreed with the findings. Intelligence is cloudy at best when you can't get people on the ground to find the truth. Weapons inspectors were constantly kicked out and not allowed to do their job. At the time it made sense that he had something to hide. Now we "know" that he was just being a moody ******* about it.

Now my opinion on the matter. Initial battle plans showed 4ID staging to the north and pushing through to Mosul and Kirkuk and ending up in Baghdad. 3ID was to stage in Kuwait and push north into Baghdad. Plans changed and 4ID had no choice but to follow 3ID out of Kuwait. Why the last minute change of plans? My opinion only here. Who is going to say "no, I don't think we need any more free bombs".

Of course, with the United States in control of Iraq and Afghanistan, Iran is sure in a tight spot.



Gotcha, sorry for jumping at that one.
I posted those links in response to wendycal's idiotic doubt that Hussein had been proven to have had no ties to al-queda before the US invaded.

In the report, it says that CIA officials handed in reports saying that the ties were much weaker than bush had made out, and that was the big debate for years, weather or not bush and his administration went on with the war citing ties to al-queda as a reason when they knew the info to be faulty. That is up for debate so I will not go into it.

Again, we are disagreeing on the core issue of what constitutes a just invasion. You seem to believe that the hazy evidence the US did have before going to war was enough, while I am of the belief that there needed to be much, MUCH more concrete evidence. Like I said, it is a complete matter of opinion, and I doubt either of us will change.

On your last sentence, I don't share your opinion, mainly because I don't see that the US has any real control over either of the countries, and two, Iraq and Iran were always at odds, they even went to war. they were no allies before the war so having the US in "control" of the country hardly changes anything.
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