The New York Dolls weren't doing anything The Rolling Stones weren't doing already. Never heard anyone say they started punk though.
The Deviants were doing the whole 'punk rock' thing in 1966 / 67.
It didn't take off then , Why?
Because people weren't ready for it. They even had a whole scene behind them , the whole UK counter culture scene.
But they never got being above a cult band because they didn't sell any records , so yes sales DO have a lot to do with it.
Punk would have never taken off the way it did if the Pistols hadn't been top of the charts & been on prime time TV.
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