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Originally Posted by ixtlan22
Yes thanks for clearing that up. And thanks for the insight on some pretty cool groups. I hadn't heard of Amon Tobin. I like it a lot. I'm quite a bit more confused than ever as to what the word 'jazz' means today so I'm going to go right now and start a new discussion of it. See you there!
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i don't think you're wrong on your views on jazz, especially not the improvisational aspect to the music. it's just the forms the musicians tend to follow these days don't ascribe to established methods nearly as much.
i tried to get 3 of the best examples of the new approaches i could think of with those clips
jaga jazzist started off in highschool as bandmates in their school group. there's a pair of brothers in the group who are the main creative force for the 10 piece. i saw them in ottawa in the summer of 2004, they left a far more significant impression on me than herbie han**** did a month prior. they have a full traditional setup with a complete horn section and solo spots for everyone during their sets but at the same time they don't shy away from tape loops and effects on the guitar or bass.
squarepusher is a modern virtuoso. he doesn't need a band to establish a groundwork for his bass playing prowess. everything but the bass is pre-programmed yet it never sounds like a machine trying to emulate a human since he pushes his machines beyond the limits of what a single person can do with their hands.
amon tobin describes himself as a beatsmith. he takes from anything and everything he can get his hands on to create his own soundscapes from material that would otherwise be ignored or discarded (especially on his last disc). on the surface he's just another DJ but he's not some cheeseball ibiza clown just adding an oppressive 4/4 beat under some cliche nu-disco sample