iksosept

I never really understood that part of religion. As Toretorden says (I think he did) I think that's just one those parts, that help a religion to survive.

I could never live my life believing in God, something that seems logical to me as an idea people invented to feel secure and better (especially with things, we as human will probably never understand. see below), and therefore forget that this is the only life we have. We should live it to the fullest. And that doesn't mean we don't follow moral ideas - as said in the ethics topic, living by the golden rule is something good.

Now the thing I don't understand. Why would god in all his greatness and justice, only reward those after death, that believed in him. Sounds really selfish to me. Wouldn't he just reward those, that lived a good life in general regarless of their beliefs?


on a side note: concerning the things we'll never understand
I just read in some philosophy book:

Men are ony capable of percieving, what their device of recognition, that has emerged from evolutionary competition, permits them to be able to recognise. Like any other animal, humans shape the world, based on the insights that their senses and their conciousness allow them. Even the most abstract things we have to see or read as signs to conceive them.
There have been eternities in which there were no human beings. When they're gone again, nothing will really have changed. Because there is no further mission for the human intellect than within the lives of human. The intellect is just human, and only his owner and creator sees it so declamatory, as if the world turns around himself.

In an unaware and arrogant way a human being judges the world he lives in, following the logic and trueness of the human species. But as an animal his thoughts are also determined by his instincts, his primitive volition and his limited capability of perception.

The human being and his actions aren't the purpose of evolution. the term "purpose" itself is suspect - Goals are human categories of thinking, they're bound to typically human notion of time, like "meaning" or "progress". But nature is a matter of Chemistry, Physics and Biology.


so yeah, I found those parts interesting.
I thinks that supports the concept of human beings being limited, but with an urge to understand everything. And as soon as you don't understand, there comes God.