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Old 03-24-2009, 01:46 PM   #131 (permalink)
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I'm not blaming science, I'm really blaming the lack of religious feeling that allows science to spiral out of control. I think a large part of this is, however, the lack of philosophy and religion in general education, which leads to a misconception in a lot of people that 'science is finding all the answers,' when science only really finds itself. As Einstein said, "nature is simple, it is we who are complex." We can spend the rest of eternity reading complexity into the Universe, but ultimately we're only studying our own capabilities of studying.
Are you aware that you almost never make any practical sense?

Take me for example. I'm conducting my own scientific research. At the moment, I am studying the wind dispersal of terrestrial flightless invertebrates like collembola and mites. First, I want to know if they are dispersed by wind. If yes, I want to know how patterns of wind dispersal relate to patterns in meteorological conditions. Is a dispersal event more likely to take place on a dry, sunny day compared to a rainy day? Does wind enter into it?

At no point have I felt like I'm spiralling out of control. I don't think that goes for any of the scientists I know. I don't really feel like I'm exclusively studying my own capability of studying either .. I'm pretty sure it was invertebrates and wind dispersal. I'm even able to provide some pretty good answers to some of the questions I posed before I started my work.

So what's the point? The point is that people like me and others who do scientific work is finding out stuff about the world we all live in, wether it's why the sun shines, how many years it's been since antarctica seperated from pangea or if a species of collembola can survive being dessiccated for long periods.

In other words, we are figuring stuff out. Without such knowledge, how are we even gonna understand our own impact on the planet we live on, something you at least do seem to care about.


I don't know what you have against science, but I'm fairly certain it can't be my studies in the arctic that does it. Science just wants to answer the hows and whys. I agree that philosophy like the basics of society and morale theory should be perhaps more important in education and that will also help us put scientific knowledge like that gained from stemcell research to good use. I think religion, however, splits peoples and societies as much as it unifies. It misleads just as much as it guides. It also hinders inquiry more than it promotes because it provides all the easy, but practically useless answers.
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