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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius
Basically you either have it or you don't  . If you question it you don't..
That's all there is to it.
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I see where you are coming from on this... don't think it's so simple BUT the most spiritual people I've met in my lifetime always seem to "have it". I flip flop with it... so to say my faith is strong would be a lie but to say I have none would also be a lie.
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Originally Posted by zzz
Agreed, I see far more good then bad coming from religion. Does it bother you all so much that people can have faith and waste a Sunday morning?
People seem to like getting hung up on the nut cases that spawn from religion as well, the molesting priests for example?
Well how about we compare that to the number of non-believers that commit crimes?
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what do you mean by waste a Sunday morning? not go to Church? also, in the intellectual words of one of my favorite comedians "more people have died in the name of God, then any other cause/reason". I believe this to be true and I'm pretty sure Mr. Carlin did his research before presenting this to the entire world.
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Originally Posted by zzz
All I'm saying about Christianity is that it guides people down the right path, lots of people who could've done very bad things have chosen faith instead (I should know, I've talked to people who were thinking suicidally). People who don't have faith obviously won't use religion as justification, as their is no set principles for non-believing
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to be brutally honest... the only reason I have my set of beliefs and follow the catholic religion is because I was born into it. My parents forced me to church every Sunday as well as Sunday school after church. Did it make me a better person? not entirely, I still sinned as much as any other person I knew (maybe more). What religion did for me was give me the idea "well, as long as I'm not killing anybody... I'm a good person and I should go to Heaven" and "if I kill myself, I will go straight to hell... so I better not do it". What makes me a better person today is the love I share with the people I surround myself with. It's wanting to do the right thing for them, and in turn for myself, which gives me the highest level of inner peace. I view going to church almost as being part of a social club that believes in the same thing. Who am I to say my religion is the right one? When I pray I pray to God... now, is this because it was taught to me at a very young age to pray to God? or do I really think there is a being just hovering over us waiting to hear my prayers? I simply look at it as a form of therapy that helps keep us in line... are we sheep? perhaps... but in the grand scheme of things as long as YOU can find a balance that keeps YOU happy while obeying the laws and values of society... then that's all one can ask for, regardless of what/who you believe in (if anything).
there are a few topics that will always just go in circles:
1) Religion
2) Abortion
3) War
4) Michael Jackson