Because I'm guessing that Creed might be loathed by many here, here's a message to the would be posters in this thread. Remember the rules :
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• While debating and discussion is fine, we will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks, or purposeless inflammatory posts.
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In other words, feel free to discuss (what's wrong with) Creed, but don't turn it into a sh*t-throwing contest.