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Old 05-24-2009, 02:03 PM   #145 (permalink)
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1. Our bodies are made up of energy, as well as everything else in existence. Go ahead and die, then say hello to one of the bugs I killed back in the 2nd grade.
How are you different?

2. If you really want to know where your life-force goes (energy) after you die... Well, ask the process of decomposition. It knows.
Otherwise, any type of semantic argument you can throw at me is completely null and void.

3. If you don't believe that your entire perspective, spiritual or physical, is a result of a cognitive influence, then you are dumber than I thought.
1. Everything is different on some level, so there's nothing with the assumption that there's no consistency in the state of an "after" life, if such a term is appropriate in this context. We only know what we can measure, so such is beyond our experience to answer. Secondly, humans are different from elephants and the bug you squished back in 2nd grade even if we are made of the same energy; we came from the same place, but ultimately are lifeforms that have just as many dissimilarities as we do things in common. Also, just because cherry and lime flavored popsicles are both popsicles, but does that make them the exact same thing?

Sorry, but your annoying tendency to create one-sentence answers to complex subjects doesn't really do much for me. :P

2. Decomposition is a physical process which can be observed by humans and other corporal things that have yet to die. It is also a fact that our human senses and various methods/instruments cannot measure or perceive all the stimuli around us. The natural conclusion to make, then, is that there is a probability that something happens after body functions cease that we simply are unaware of even as we observe it. Although we can also make the opposite assumption, such an assumption naturally would point to your emotions and biases getting in the way of investigating something that may be worth learning about. I mean come on now, are you really so base-minded that you completely discount the possibility that things happen around you that you are not aware of, simply because to do so would mean putting yourself out of your pathetic little comfort zone?

3. I said they were seperate things, not that a person's cognitive process could not influence their concious experiences and viewpoints. However, a person can just as easily think and consider and act upon things that contradict what their cognitive processes tell them. Also, it is possible to simply look and observe something without thinking anything in particular, but simply focusing on what one's bodily senses are telling them. Furthermore, it is precisely because we are guided by our senses and limited cognitive abilities that limit us from knowing everything, not even taking into account the possibility of spiritual existence.
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