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Originally Posted by Brent-on-the-Run
which fruits of that labor? tell me how you receive more benefit by working harder in a socialistic society as opposed to a capitalistic. also, I would appreciate you not calling something I said stupid. Thank you. I didn't say capitalism makes A country stronger, it makes and has made our country stronger. also, please explain to me how much Norway, Sweden, etc have contributed to the technological, medical, whatever else advancement?
Also, please help me understand how an individual will work harder and start their own businesses, etc, when the more they work, the more it helps others. Shouldn't I be able to be successful and make my own choices who I want to give my money to?
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I called what you said stupid because it was. Saying capitalism has been great for the world is just...stupid. I could've used a nicer word - sorry but countries are mired in poverty because of it and their resources have been stolen. Slavery, sweat shops, dumping toxic waste, all these have been the products of capitalism. You can't really deny that. Fidel Castro once said "they talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?" Well where is it?
Also, in regards to Sweden, Norway and so on not being at the forefront of technological innovations. It's a pretty ignorant thing to say.
Global Conexions In regards to Norway, there's polar research and off-shore oil drilling and so on. I also learned from toretorden that they invented the cheese slicer! But how can that be in a socialist society!? Education leads to innovation; not the free market that's why.
In regards to the last paragraph. Before you say you should have the right to decide what you should do with your own property why is it your property? What makes it yours really? How can claim ownership over something and how doesn't that interfere with the rest of societies liberties?
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Originally Posted by Brent-on-the-Run
What larger picture is there? I think it's that simple. It's easy for us middle class people to say they rich have it easy and get all these tax breaks, etc, when we are the one who would benefit from it. Is that a false premise? I really doubt if you were wealthy that you would be in favor of paying more tax than anyone else. Seriously?
anyways, this is fun. I'm not trying to be argumentative  and I'm bored at work. so ok. |
Um...again. Read my post. I don't think you did or if you did you chose to ignore it.