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Old 08-21-2009, 10:54 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Because people always LOVE to say something like, "YOU COULD NEVER WRITE A SONG AS DEEP AS STINKFIST!!!" Tool doesn't make very thoughtful or witty or complex metaphors like people seem to think, they're relatively simple metaphors and they really beat the **** out of dead horses. They try really, really hard to be "deep" or "different."

You know Maynard was a hilarious black comedian, right? I don't doubt that he left his comical abilities behind to become this all-serious, "deep" band leader.

Honestly, Isis and Neurosis have done more for metal than Tool will have ever done. Quite often, Tool plays a boring, up down up down three chord combinations. They're really monotonous.

Isis and Neurosis can both create dense, layered sonics that are a lot more powerful than Tool.
Firstly, people who say stuff like that are obviously dumb and unknowledgeable. I'm not one to go about saying "YOU COULD NEVER WRITE SONGS AS DEEP AS TOOL." I agree with you on that; I don't like people who talk about Tool like they are untouchable Gods or some shit.

Secondly, since when was Maynard a hilarious black comedian? I know he was close to Bill Hicks and often incorporated black comedy into many of his viewpoints on the world but he was never a comedian. He studied art and wanted a career in art before participating in Tool; as far as I know he was always interested in profound and alternative ways of looking at the world. In fact, in most interviews/ press conferences/ etc I've seen with him he has always come across as a very, very serious person.

Plus anyway, comedy and specifically black comedy isn't lighthearted at all... it is often a very serious method of critiquing the world.

Thirdly, I agree with you in a way that Tool haven't done much for 'metal' and this is because I don't really place Tool in metal bucket at all. I see them more as art rock/progressive.

Fourthly, I definitely don't believe Tool are monotonous. They are anything but. Both emotionally and technically their music is very complex and layered. Can you give me any examples of where they use boring up-down-up-down three chord riffs? Because as far as I'm aware their technicality is way more advanced than that.
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