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Old 11-12-2009, 12:32 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan View Post
It's not their Nationalism, it's there political ideology, atheistic communism, and it wasn't somehow threatening to the West and in particular America, they were real threats with real victims to those who lived in those countries (you had mentioned). Think about what the Khmer Rouge did, they were not somehow threatening, they tortured and killed real people.
Ha, here lies the rub. It seems America can spread and promote its own "political ideology" not to mention its 'economic ideology' throughout the world but it's wrong for anyone else? Can't it be also said that America's political and economic ideology is a threat to much of the world? Even much of the West isn't particularly keen on America's foreign policies, which are - quite rightly - seen as "threatening" to many.

I'm not sure what relevance the Khmer Rouge have here. How were the Khmer Rouge a threat to America? The idea is laughable. The only possible threat the Khmer Rouge had was to America's influence in a part of the world thousands of miles of way from American soil. Also, if you're suggesting that the CPK were part of the 'Red Scare', then don't be taken in by 'Uncle Joe' - no, not Stalin, McCarthy. The CPK were in no way typical of any kind of 'Communism' anywhere else in the world.

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China is a real threat to America (even now) with cyber-terrorism.
You're either being incredibly naive or disingenuous if you think other major powers aren't also involved in this, including America.

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I don't care if America is misjudged and hated by the world - at least we help those in need.
I don't really want to get into too big a debate on this as it's straying too far from what this thread is about and I genuinely wasn't trying to start a 'general bash America' trajectory as I was genuinely more concerned about American Nationalism than anything else. However, I do find it somewhat ironic that, in the same post, your vaunt how 'you help those in need' but also hint at the atrocities committed by the Khmer Rouge but where was America when the CPK were killing the New People? It seems that America does like to help but, curiously, often in places where the civilian population aren't that keen on America's helping hand but, elsewhere, where people are desperate for help, America is nowhere to be seen.

Maybe Cambodia's rice crop wasn't attractive enough a resource for the American government?
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