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Old 12-16-2009, 09:56 AM   #17 (permalink)
Zarko
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this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or raising children or any of the other crap people are spouting. the government is only filtering material that is already illegal to view/possess. they are merely enforcing the law. what's the big deal?

it's like getting mad when drug traffickers are stopped at the border. you can shout all you want about how your right to sniff the drugs was hindered when the government prevented them from entering the country. just don't forget that "your right to sniff the drugs" does not actually exist.
The fallacious reasoning in this argument is that there is ALREADY a hearty process/filter that is aimed specifically at illegal material. It's not like we are such a backwards country that this is all of a sudden a focal point, this is straight up censorship of material that our Government, in all it's fabulous glory, decides what is 'right' for our eyes.

There is NO Opt-Out, which is just ridiculous in the first place. This was a big issue a year ago when its discussion was 'all the rage' on Australian forums. The testing of the best available filter massively slowed down the Internet (Which is already slow, but besides that, it was slown down ridiculously, indefensible if it is ONLY for illegal material). ot only this, but there are 'normal' websites that were blocked and, whilst weren't illegal, were 'against' what our nanny state Government was trying to push. It is ridiculous.

Of course, there will be a way to get around the filters - However, this isn't a solveable issue in that sense. Being a direct filter that is applied from the first step, there is no way to step around what is meant to be crippling internet speeds.

Nowadays, the 'ment is trying to push a 'multilayered filter', one aiming at tykes and one for those who want a less stringent choke on their internet browsing ability.

Not to mention the fact that, as a filter, it will directly ignore one of the bigger hubs for illegal-searching users on the net - Things like BitTorrent.

The title of the filter - Clean-Feed. I don't need a bunch of stuck up arsehole politicians deciding what is clean and what is not.

10,000 out of every million websites will be incorrectly blocked. This is actually a fair amount, at least one to question the validity on a techincal level, along with the internet slowdown.

Whats even funnier - You opt out of the second level, so you can 'view adult conyent' and you get put on a list.

An old list of websites on the 'black list'. Most of which - Porn, but some interesting additions throughout.
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Australian...%2C_6_Aug_2008

Most of the poker websites gone... Yes, because children can gain access to a credit card easily and pump money into an account to play online..........

It's funny that the Thai filter degenerated from stopping child pornography to now filtering anti-Royal Family websites.

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