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Originally Posted by jackhammer
Pop punk should not be allowed 
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You don't even have an appreciation for NOFX? Well I guess it's pointless to argue with an Englishman in his 30s about punk, I should know better.
I'm just not into old school "original" punk, with a few exceptions. Maybe one day I'll get into that stuff, but it won't affect my taste for more poppy punk. And don't get me wrong, there are plenty of mainstream pop punk bands I hate, so please let's not assume I'm a fan of Sum41, Good Charlotte, Fall Out Boy, Avril, and all that shyte. I'm talking about 90s California street/skater punk bands like Pennywise, Lagwagon, etc. basically the Fat Wreck/Epitaph stuff. But hey...we can agree to disagree. I grew up with a lot of that stuff and I like it. And Dookie was a fine album, albeit much more mainstream than the other stuff I liked so of course more people know about it and will diss it if they're not into the style. And again, I make no excuses for post-Dookie Green Day...I never liked them beyond that album but I also don't hate them, I just ignore them.
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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Cheesy on every front. And nothing special, except the amount of cheesiness, which somehow overshadows the dull and boring music.
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They have been pretty cheesy and boring as hell for the past 15 or so years, yes. But they were good before that.
Ah f
uck this thread. I guess I shouldn't go around trying to defend stuff, it's irritating.

We all have different perspectives on things and will never hear something the same way as someone else.