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Old 02-17-2010, 11:02 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Hey keyleigh!

First, the short answer to your question about your biology teacher: she was wrong. Well-planned vegan diets, which include vitamin B-12, are healthful.

The issue of horse hair for violin bows relates to the larger issue of whether people are allowed to slaughter horses. This has recently been hotly debated here in the U.S. Many people, including myself, feel horses deserve a better end than being slaughtered for flesh and hair after having served humans throughout their lives.
Ah I see I didn't think that the slaughtering of horses would be involved. You'd think it'd be a little tail cut or something.

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I do not usually try to prevent carnivores from killing other animals...unless the prey is a pet or a human child! :-) I do wish nature were different, though. It may seem fine if you are the cat, but pretty horrible if you are the mouse. I can't forget the mouse, even as I am glad that the cat is alive. I do not want to kill an animal to feed a carnivore, including a cat.
Fair point, though the mouse may have feelings and such. I believe that it should just go with a pyramid of biomass, I've never considered before the little mouse's feelings. But now that I have I still feel that the best interest is for the mouse to be killed by the cat, this may be selfish or whatever. I just believe that it's better that way, regardless or the little mouses feelings, although I do feel slightly sad. I don't feel strongly at all.

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Kayleigh, your feelings for a pet animal sound like the feelings I have every time I see a pig or a cow who will be slaughtered. I see them enjoying themselves and know people will end these animals' lives not for need, but for desire.

Should whether we kill an animal or not be determined primarily by how strong people's feelings are for that animal? Or should we use other criteria, too? And let’s say you felt for a wide variety of animals the same way you feel for dogs. How might this change your eating habits? What would you do, surrounded by a world where people felt nothing for dogs, cats, pet birds, piglets, or any animal you cared for? Would you continue to eat them, or would you find another way?
To be honest, I don't care much for any other dog other than my own and dogs I'm close to. I just view a Dog as a pet not tasty, whereas cows to me, are tasty... To answer your question I'd continue to eat them as I feel it's in my best health interests to eat animals. Plus I'm only one person. And no matter how many Vegetarians or Vegans or similar people there is, there will always be a million more omnivores.

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I think one of Chuck Berry's song was named after his pet cow, I think it's Maybellene.

I saw countless cows on farms travelling on the turn pike, as a kid, whenever we seen laying down in the grass my mom would always say "it's going to rain" even til this day I don't know how cows could predict the weather. Even though cows really don't make neat pet, they're kinda popular, in America they're depicted in Country/Folk art, and home decorations etc. I got myself plaid cow stickers to put on my guitar to make look folksy.
Well my aunt has sorta pet cows, you can whistle on them and pet them and stuff, they lick you too, which is sorta weird until you get used to it, as much as I adore these cows, I still don't feel that every cow should be a pet, I mean I don't think every cow should be killed for meat. Nor do I hold much against the fact other country's eat Cat, but it would unsettle me to eat a Cat or any other domestic kind of animal.
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