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Originally Posted by zevokes
thank you vegangelica for listening and commenting. i did not expect such a strong critique, but i guess that's what music banter is for.
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You are very welcome, zevokes. Learning about the process others use to make their music is the main reason I'm here!
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firstly i'd like to say that aside from being a drummer, i am a novice at all the other stuff. i really enjoy experimenting, but like you say with Canvas 3005, cohesion is sometimes hard to achieve when i don't have an idea of what i want before going into it. canvas 3005 was one of my very first attempts at purely synthesized music. honestly, i think i'm going to rip the whole first 1.5 minutes out of it... or i might, anyway. and as for the panning, i've since learned to use the effect of it in a way that is much less hard on the brain. i still like the dramatic shifts, but if you go to far left or right too quick with certain sounds, as you say, is not good for headaches.
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I like the dramatic shifts, too: they make the song reach out and interact more strongly with me, which I like, but I think it is true that too much panning can be hard on the head.
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"shoot sprout" and it's flute are synthesized, meaning that the rasp and flutter were generated via lots and lots of time spent fiddling with parameters to get a certain timbre or tone or phase or whatever. i would love to have real instruments, but they are expensive, hiring people to play them is expensive, and quite frankly there are things you can do with synthetic sounds that can't be done with physical instruments, things i'm rather fond of.
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I couldn't even tell for sure if the flute was synthesized! I also like synthetic sounds because they are distinct from real instruments' sounds...though surprisingly similar sometimes.
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Maude Generic Tester. the chanted vocals on that track are the bane in the history of my recording. it's actually called throat singing. that sound is achieved by vibrating both sets of vocal cords at two different (but harmonizing) rates. the reason i call that song the bane is that i really like throat singing and don't think it should be over-used, but when i finalized that project something happened and the chant went out of sync with the rest of the tracks. i think it's like two beats ahead or something. i would correct it, but i make my music on a desktop computer not quite geared for sound, and shortly after i finalized that track my computer crashed and i lost all the data which made up that song. this happens to me all the time, and is why in my MB profile it says that i want a record deal, so as i can spend some money on solid gear and not have to worry about all this sh*te.
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There's a thread in the international music section that includes some throat singing! So are *you* doing the throat singing yourself!?
I actually hadn't realized the singing was out-of-phase with the music at the end...now I'll have to listen again more critically!
Your data loss must have been a horror come true for a musician making mostly synthesized music. Do you have an external harddrive that you can use at least to back-up your computer?
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twiddophile is currently my favourite synth music that i've made. it took a very long time to make, because the glitch sounds that came out weren't made with some automated plugin which rips sounds up for the user, but rather i actually had to program every single little micro sound to achieve a less "algo-rhythmic" feel and a more random or organic sound. i can't recall if i used a slide-whistle-type VST, but that's definitely possible. as far as low tones, i'm currently doing a bit of research so as i can properly "seat" those kinds of frequencies. as it stands, i find them entirely difficult to manage. i also have this tendency to get too "notey" with the "bass" end, resulting in my never finding lines that i like.
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I could hear the effort in this song. I appreciate that. Thanks for describing some of the issues you face as you construct music (such as with trying to prevent the bass lines from getting too "notey"). I like hearing about the thought-processes you have as you're constructing the song, because I relate them to my own and learn from them.
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i like that you find my music soothing. not what i expect to hear, but nice to hear nonetheless. i do plan on adding vocals to some newer electronic stuff that i'm doing. well, i'm actually working on it, but find it hard because the sort of sound scape that i create synthetically is one i find hard to mesh with the way my voice works, but like i say, i'm working on it anyway!
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I can relate to that issue of not feeling that vocals match the sound of the music one wants.
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the current work that i'm most excited about is actually composed entirely of vocals. lots of chanting and swells, plus a little bit of my voice turned into a synthesizer... inspired to a certain degree by Bjork's album Medulla. i look up to bjork in a really big way.
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I'll have to look up Bjork's album Medulla. I'm happy to hear about your excitement over making music, because I love the whole process, too! It's nice to connect via MusicBanter with people who enjoy the creative process in a similar way.
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i hope that answers your questions sufficiently.
and yeah, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME!!! MUCH APPRECIATED!!!
EDIT: i just noticed you said in "left open" that i am singing WITH myself. you are indeed correct. i don't have a good microphone, so i layer the vocals, which gives a little more depth.
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Yep, you answered my questions and you are welcome for my time...I'm glad to help. It helps me, too, to hear what other people are creating.
~ Erica