OctaneHugo

so low it hurts

Oh lord, we're going to argue over the musicianship? Neither of us have the right.

The lyrics most certainly have been stronger, though. Like when they had actual substance and meaning and weren't a bunch of random overthought words strung together into song.


Sorry, but trying to make me seem like some sort of one-dimensional culturally insignificant moron isn't going to work. Not every Police song is fast, and Ghost in the Machine, which I said was good, isn't exactly speedcore.

You not only manage to imply I hate pop music, but also manage to imply that pop can't be complex or multi-layered and ALSO imply that I'm some sort of prog aficionado who finds all other genres inferior.

Also, I'm not sure how you can say The Police were always a pop band..Outlandos was a punkish new-wave sort of thing most definitely, Reggatta is spans a number of genres (and I wouldn't call pop one of thme) and Zenyatta is decidedly new wave. Ghost is where the pop picks up and Synchronicity really goes full out on it (though certainly some songs are the exception..."O My God" "Murder By Numbers" etc).

That's no different than thinking all black people are thieves and criminals. Just because there's a standard in place doesn't mean something can't qualify under it because it's different.

Oho, 5/10 on the trolling. Textbook but certainly effective!

If "world music" now means bad. And while Sting could still pen a good song the lyrics progressed to just completely...not anything? I don't know.

Copeland and Summers penned plenty of fine tunes.

Now you're implying I find anything remotely abstract to be pretentious. No, I find these songs pretentious. Song-by-song basis.
Also, saying they were writing "simple love songs" their whole previous career is simple incorrect. They covered a variety of subjects and there are plenty of political songs on their earlier records. It's not like "Walking In Your Footsteps" or "O My God" have lyrics that are completely out of line, or that "Every Breath You Take" has particularly deep meaning in it.

Now I don't know if you're trying to say the songs are successful or if you're inferring that commercial success means it's good (and if you are this conversation ends here).

Because "De Do Do Do" isn't musically terrible or vocally annoying? Also, try not to compare the two, especially because the latter's lyrics are much deeper than the "Every Little Thing".

That's...cool? I said it gets old. It doesn't make any memorable impact.

No? I was saying what I thought when I first heard it? I prefer the things they did earlier, that doesn't automatically mean I don't think a band can evolve; you bothered to insult my tastes in other bands, surely you're aware that both bands you mentioned and many of my other favorites evolved as well?

Also, you might want to get a dictionary, because "nostalgia" doesn't mean what you seem to think it means. Or if you do know what it means, you're using it wrong, or you're misunderstanding what I've said.

That kind of opinion makes me sick. "Hurrrr it'd be good but it's overplayed". Well shi‎t, guess I can't make a song people LIKE or else it'll be bad. I don't like the song because of how it sounds and such, not because it's overexposed.

Oh, they TOTALLY DID, and chief songwriter doesn't mean it was his band. Outlandos and Reggatta it's CLEAR that Copeland is in charge, just because Sting wrote some of the songs himself and sang doesn't mean he was creatively directing it all. Zenyatta is a bit of fusion between the two, and then Ghost is where Sting really takes over. Sure you know about the relationships, yes? Summers and Copeland were pissed by the end because Sting basically took everything over and didn't seek their input on anything.

Yeah, such a group effort that they fought the whole time they were recording, and that it's pretty obvious nobody had any say in the creative matters than Sting.

I never said that.

And you're trying to tell me how wrong I am.

You're the one who started this. I made this post and everything was civil and then all of a sudden you hit your period or some shi‎t and said I felt personally insulted or something.

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